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Meeting Minutes 

City and County of San Francisco
Municipal Transportation Agency
Citizens’ Advisory Council

Engineering, Maintenance and Safety Committee

Wednesday, February 23, 2011, at 4:00 p.m.
1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3075
San Francisco, California


  • Call to Order
    Chairman Daniel Weaver called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. 
  • Roll Call

EMSC Members present at Roll Call:  Steve Ferrario and Daniel Weaver

EMSC Members absent:  Greg Riessen and Jamison Wieser

CAC members, not on this committee, but also present:  Chairman Weaver appointed Susan Vaughan to serve as Pro Tem

  • Announcement of prohibition of sound producing devices during the meeting.

The CAC Secretary made the announcement.

  • Approval of Minutes

On motion to approve the minutes of January 26, 2011: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Vaughan, and Weaver

      Absent – Riessen and Wieser

  • Report of the Chairman (For discussion only): 


  • Public Comment: 


  • Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding bicycle facilities for the Central Subway project. (Quon Chin, Central Subway)

Quon Chin distributed handouts which showed an overview of bicycle facility designs for the Central Subway project.  Three stations of the project: Moscone Station, Union Square Station, and the Chinatown Station will have varying bicycle parking designs and Mr. Chin stated that the designs are not 100% complete at this time.  Bicycle riding has been recognized as a key mode among the City’s assortment of mobility option, and discussed in the EIR phase, although Muni does not allow bicycles on Light Rail Vehicles (LRVs). 

Council member Vaughan stated bicycle locking facilities at the Central Subway stations should be kept safe and located near a station agent booth where they can watched by station agents.  Chairman Weaver inquired if the project will have a rental program for bicycle rental at the Central Subway stations.  Mr. Chin stated no and that there are space constraints the design team has been given at the three stations.   Mr. Chin stated that architects have been given mandate to keep focus on pedestrian movement, but to provide bicycle storage facilities for the Central Subway stations.  The design of the bicycle racks for the Moscone station showed bicycle parking on the street level outside the station.  The plan for design of the bicycle racks for the Union Square station will be on the concourse level.   The design of the bicycle racks for the Chinatown station is in design stage since this area of the project is congested.  A bulb out was created as part of an extension for the station entrance.

Council member Vaughan mentioned that at San Francisco State University their bicycle barns are stacked and monitored and that E-Lockers with SmartCard payment are used at BART.  She inquired if there is any staff involved in bicycle rack design.  Heath Maddox, Senior Planner, Livable Streets Subdivision, Sustainable Streets responded that he designed the bicycle rack lockers that will be placed around the City.  Mr. Quon stated that staff will work in conjunction with Livable Streets staff in terms of bicycle racks and lockers for the Central Subway project.

Committee member Ferrario stated he is concerned about the lack of entrances at the Moscone and Chinatown stations, that there is only one entrance at both stations, although there are two entrances for the Castro and Church Street metro stations.  He stated given the events in New Zealand during the past week should address this because the City is located in earthquake territory.  Mr. Quon stated that in an emergency situation, there are emergency lights and signage that would direct passengers to opposite sides of the platform and to the emergency stair sidewalk hatch.

Public comment:


  • Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding plans to improve subway capacity. (David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services)

David Hill stated that the highest capable capacity is 60 trains per hour through any given station, but 40-45 trains on normal schedule.  He stated if the trains were three-cars and the J Line ran on the surface, more trains would be able to move more passengers through the subway stations. 

Public comment:


  • Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding efforts to reconcile NextMuni information signs, destination signs and verbal announcements. (David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services)

David Hill stated that software upgrade to the ATCS has been completed and now the verbal announcements match train arrival.  Mr. Hill stated that the NextBus system is off timing buses because of system data relay.  He stated that NextBus is not an off-the-shelf product and Muni makes the changes in-house.  Mr. Hill stated that most of the system is outside of the subway and delay in time itself is the information being relayed to the NextBus signage from the ATCS.

Public comment:


  • Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a surface loop for the J Church and N Judah lines.  (David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services)

David Hill did not discuss a surface loop for the J Church and N Judah during this meeting. 

Mr. Hill brought preprinted document discussing previous questions with answers from January meeting which discussed using vehicles from other transit agencies to see if they would be compatible on Muni’s tracks, but that is still in research phase. 

Public comment:


  • Committee Members’ requests for information (For discussion only) 

Steve Ferrario would like to know the status on repairing the subway tunnel west of Castro Street. 

Dan Weaver would like to know how the radio system plan works.

  • Schedule upcoming calendar items (For discussion only)

Next regular meeting:  March 23, 2011, at 4 p.m.
1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3075

  • Adjournment:  The meeting was adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

Respectfully submitted by:
Yvette Torres
SFMTA CAC - Secretary



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