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City and County of San Francisco
Municipal Transportation Agency
Citizens’ Advisory Council
Engineering, Maintenance and Safety Committee
Wednesday, January 26, 2011, at 4:00 p.m.
1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3075
San Francisco, California
MINUTES
- Call to Order
Chairman Daniel Weaver called the meeting to order at 4:02 p.m.
- Roll Call
EMSC Members present at Roll Call: Steve Ferrario, Greg Riessen, and Daniel Weaver
EMSC Members absent: Jamison Wieser
CAC members, not on this committee, but also present: Joan Downey
- Announcement of prohibition of sound producing devices during the meeting.
The CAC Secretary made announcement.
Committee member Steve Ferrario requested that the minutes be amended to state that two entrances and two exits at both Moscone and Chinatown station be added to item #9.
On motion to approve the minutes as amended of November 17, 2010: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen, and Weaver
Absent – Wieser
None
None
- Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding subway service. (John Haley, Director of Transit Services, Transit Services)
John Haley was unable to attend meeting. David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services, discussed the problems that caused delays to the system. The Engineering department re-designed the sander hose. 30% of all vehicles have had retrofitted sander hoses installed. Another issue that delayed service had to do with Automatic Train Control System (ATCS) and the axle counters. Axle blocks needed new wiring and wiring switches were repaired. Since these repairs were made however, but the ATCS still needs more upgrades.
No public comment.
- Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding efforts to reconcile NextMuni information signs, destination signs, and verbal announcements. (John Haley, Director of Transit Services, Transit Services)
Chairman Weaver continued the item to the next month.
- Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding phasing of the new fare gates and fare instruments. (David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services)
David Hill stated that all faregates and instruments for the Clipper system have been installed at all Muni stations. The Construction Division handles all faregate issues and that all faregates have been improved dramatically since Construction has taken over control of the warranty portion of the contract. Mr. Hill states that staff has fixed the problem with the antennas and its ability to download software information.
Mr. Hill stated that the speed of the faregate doors can’t be quickened because it may injure another person. Council member Ferrario mentioned that the system in London works much better because their system has designated exit and entrance gates.
Mr. Hill stated that Clipper card users increased from 2% to 30% since introduction. He noted that riders who use the 54 Felton and 28 19th Avenue buses are able to ride free because of a deal struck years ago. Clipper cards do not charge Muni riders at the Daly City BART station.
No public comment.
- Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding subway capacity. (David Hill, Deputy Director, Transit Services)
Chairman Weaver stated that the money spent on the ATCS and vehicles, passenger throughput is still not at the level it was in 1997. Chairman Weaver asked how this can be improved. Mr. Hill stated that although there aren’t enough trains in the system, delays are also caused by dwell time in the stations by passengers boarding and exiting. Committee member Riessen mentioned that he observed that dwell time at the Embarcadero Station was due in part to train operators, who take their time to board the LRV. Supervisors should ensure that the train operator is moving swiftly.
Chairman Weaver inquired about purchasing low-floor streetcars from transit agencies that have reduced service. Mr. Hill stated that although this sounds ideal, other transit cars are not able to run on our system. Mr. Hill mentioned that the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority (VTA) says that we can have their unused vehicles, but we would have to get them.
Chairman Weaver mentioned increase dwell time inside the tunnel appears to be frequent. Mr. Hill stated that Metro Rail Operation (MRO) inspectors were placed at subway platforms and are now in the Line Management Center (LMC). MRO inspectors contact Central Control to make changes as necessary.
Motion 110126.05
The SFMTA CAC recommends that a direct telephone connection between the Line Management Center (LMC) and the Metro Rail Operation (MRO) supervisor on the platform of the Embarcadero station be established, using the existing landline telephone to the platform and new wireless headset for the MROs. This would enable the LMC to re-direct LRVs from one line to another for their outbound run. As a consequence, this would reduce bunching and service would be better distributed.
On motion to approve Motion 110126.05: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen and Weaver
Absent – Wieser
Motion 110126.06
The SFMTA CAC recommends that at least two MRO supervisors, equipped with wireless headsets, be stationed at the Embarcadero station during peak periods, one for he inbound and one for the outbound platform.
On motion to approve Motion 110126.06: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen and Weaver
Absent – Wieser
Motion 110126.07
The SFMTA CAC recommends that MROs at the Embarcadero Station ensure that regular and relief operators exit and enter the LRVs as quickly as possible, in order to reduce dwell times for inbound and outbound vehicles.
On motion to approve Motion 110126.07: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen and Weaver
Absent – Wieser
Motion 110126.08
The SFMTA CAC recommends that at least one MRO supervisor be stationed at all four non-subway terminals at all times in order to actively manage the schedule.
On motion to approve Motion 110126.08: Adopted
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen and Weaver
Absent - Wieser
- Discussion and possible action regarding the 2011 meeting schedule.
The 2011 meeting schedule was approved. The committee will meet the fourth Wednesday of each month, but not in August.
No public comment.
On motion to approve 2011 schedule: Approved
Ayes – Ferrario, Riessen and Weaver
Absent – Wieser
- Committee Members’ requests for information (For discussion only)
Daniel Weaver would like to know the total cost and plans for the ATCS system.
Steve Ferrario would like to know if Muni faregates could be designated in and out like the system in London.
Daniel Weaver would like to know the dwell time delay and ridership totals for 1997.
- Schedule upcoming calendar items (For discussion only)
Next regular meeting: February 23, 2011, at 4 p.m.
1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3075
- Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 5:42 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
Yvette Torres
SFMTA CAC - Secretary
Accessible meeting policy – One South Van Ness Avenue
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