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City and County of San Francisco
Municipal Transportation Agency
Citizens’ Advisory Council (MTA CAC)

Engineering, Maintenance & Safety Committee (EMSC)

FINAL Minutes
Regular Meeting

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 3:00 p.m.
1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3074
San Francisco, California

1. Call to Order / Roll Call (Agenda Item 1).
Chairman Dan Weaver called the meeting to order at 3:07 p.m.
A quorum was present including the following:

EMSC Members Present at Roll Call: Daniel Weaver (Chair), Steve Ferrario, Bruce Oka, and Jamison Wieser

EMSC Members Absent: None

MTA CAC Members, not on this committee, but also present: Norman Rolfe

MTA Staff (San Francisco Municipal Railway [MUNI] and Department of Parking and Traffic [DPT]) present: Judson True (MTA CAC Liaison), Peter Straus (MTA Manager Service Planning), Marc Caposino (MTA Marketing), Ted Aranas (MTA Facilities Manager), and Debra Reed (MTA CAC Secretary)

Community Representatives Present: None

2. Public Comment – Concerning any issue within the jurisdiction of the Council and not noted on the agenda:


3. Adopt Minutes for April 11, May 9, and May 29, 2007 (Discussion/Action)

Participating staff – Judson True

Steve Ferrario, Bruce Oka, and Dan Weaver expressed their disapproval of the decision by staff to reduce full committee minutes to action minutes for committees. While action minutes were up to legal standards, they were not informative. Members wanted committees’ action minutes restored to full minutes.

EMSC Action Minutes were not adopted.

4. Report of the Chair: Daniel Weaver (EMSC Chair) - no report presented

5. Way Finding/Graphics at Muni Metro Stations (Discussion/ Action) Marc Caposino and Peter Straus

Mr. Straus distributed and reviewed copies of the order-of-station styled Metro map and Muni map. Discussion ensued. Brail/Tactile versions of the order-of-station style maps will be hung up in all the Metro stations.

Mr. Caposino invited suggestions for new directional terms other than the term inbound.

Mr. Caposino announced new digital touch screens with Metro and NextBus information.

Questions and Comments from the EMSC:

Inbound and Outbound boarding signs were removed. Response: Signs listing all the Metro lines have been placed along the track walls indicating inbound or outbound with the height placement according to ADA regulations. More signs, including inbound and outbound signs placed on platform walls, were forthcoming; however, there has been discussion since the advent of the T-line because outbound for the T-line is inbound for all other trains and visa-versa. Mr. Caposino invited suggestions for alternative directional terms other than inbound and outbound.

Dan Weaver suggested posting signage ideas on a MTA website for public opinions and comments before installing permanent signs.

Jamison Wieser suggested updating the maps to show that the J Church and N Judah trains continue to the Caltrain station.

Steve Ferrario:

Mr. Ferrario pointed out that the lettering may be difficult for sight impaired patrons. The lettering should all be in capitol letters. Response: The lettering style was the logo of the MTA. Public announcements had already been sent out to numerous groups, including SPUR, CAC, etc. Lighting has been a major problem. Facilities Maintenance has drastically improved lighting at the Van Ness station.

6. June 30th Service Changes (CAC Initiated) (Discussion/Action) Peter Straus

EMSC discussion ensued.

Mr. Straus distributed copies of the SFMTA Street & Transit Map 2007, and reviewed service changes with J Church, N Judah and K Ingleside trains.

7. PUC Market Street Metro Light Study (Discussion/Action) Ted Aranas

Mr. Aranas explained that the PUC Light Study was part of a clean energy/clean air program. On the portion referring to lighting was looking at efficiency and energy use, example changing from incandescent to compact florescent lighting, etc. The PUC’s study involved identifying areas for improvement in efficiency use of energy with respect to lighting, motors, etc., example changing a T-12 to a T-8 in a fixture for energy savings.

EMSC discussion ensued.

Comments and Questions from the EMSC

Dan Weaver:

Did the PUC check light levels? Response: Mr. Aranas did not believe that light level was the focus. The PUC focused on energy savings. The new T-8 promises better light rendition.

What would be done as a result of the PUC Lighting Study? Response: The Agency would be looking for funding sources to change lighting in areas recommended for energy savings.

Lighting has deteriorated. Mr. Weaver suggested identifying a standard for adequate lighting, suggesting BART as a source of information.

BART redesigned lighting in the Powell, Civic Center, and Montgomery Stations and adding halogen lighting. Response: It was reported that BART was having problems with HID lighting burning out quickly, resulting in increased maintenance costs. The PUC study focused on savings.

Mr. Weaver suggested better wall colors. He felt that the blue colors used were darker than red colors. Mr. Ferrario added that BART changed their wall color to ivory, which brightened their stations.

Mr. Aranas announced painting and carbon dust cleaning at the Van Ness Avenue and Montgomery stations and tunnels.

8. Green and Geneva Facilities (Discussion/Action) Ted Aranas

Mr. Weaver expressed concern regarding repairing the irrigation system at the Green facility’s yard and adding irrigation at Geneva facility’s yard. EMSC discussion ensued.

Mr. Aranas still needed a 3rd gardener. Mr. Aranas reviewed plans for a low-maintenance rock garden at the Geneva facilities while waiting Muni’s plumbers to complete the irrigation system. Plumbers were very busy with repairs and projects throughout Muni.

Questions and Comments from the EMSC

Mr. Weaver inquired about a team dedicated to cleaning Muni platforms. Response: The increase in personnel had not been approved in the Budget. Mr. Aranas reviewed the difference between having an in-house team versus hiring a company to steam clean platforms.

Mr. Ferrario pointed out that the palm trees along Market Street were long overdue for trimming and needed a regularly trimming scheduled. Response: DPW were responsible to trim palm trees along Market Street. DPW had the budget to maintain palms along Market Street as well as the MOU for palm tree maintenance along the T-Third line.

9. Schedule Upcoming Meetings and Agenda Items:

Next regular meeting: Wednesday, July 11, 2007, at 1 South Van Ness Avenue, Conference Room 3075, at 3:00 p.m.

10. Adjournment: 5:18 p.m.

Respectfully submitted by:
Debra J. Reed
MTA CAC - Secretary

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